how bad do you think the problem is, diabetes that? is it just a little thing or is there abuse going on here? even if it is a little thing withdrawing these funds in casinos and liquor stores gives a lot of temptation to spend it right there. unfortunately the state federal government doesn't keep data or where people withdraw that cash benefit. >> bill: how does that work? you have a little card have. >> a little card. they put it in an atm machine. they get the cash out. the cash is supposed to be spent on rent, on utilities and on household purchases. >> bill: can access at almost any atm machine there are gazillioning of them. >> that's right there are gazillions of them. >> bill: found out they were using the card in liquor store establishments. that's not good. >> atm machine across the street. the atm machine i went to doesn't work. ironically it's in the strip club. you can't assume person withdrawing money from an atm machine is using it in a strip club. >> bill: i don't know why would you go in a strip club when there are at